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By the way, they are mentioned in prophecy pertaining to these latter days if you understand to who God is speaking when He refers to them.
Could you elaborate more on this prophecy for me please or point me to where i can read it thank you
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You must understand who Ephraim and Manasseh represents in these end times and where they fit into Gods plan concerning this world.
Gods children should know who they are.
You can read concerning them in the book of Genesis, but the end time prophecy pertaining to them is located in the Minor Prophets.
The book of Hosea is a good study.
Here is a good article that I found on the net that will help.
The PATTERN FOR MANASSEH
927 CE – 1707 CE
Kingdom of England
“And Joseph called the name of the firstborn Manasseh: For God has caused me to forget all my troubles and my father's family [Genesis 41:50-51] And Joseph called the name of the firstborn Manasseh: For God, said he hath made me forget all my toil, and all my father's house.” [Genesis 41:51].
Manasseh was the eldest son of Joseph, grandson of Jacob, and progenitor of the tribal Pattern of forgetting. During the scattering years, Joseph, through his son, Manasseh, went through the forgetting process, which resulted in the 'lost tribes of Israel.' However, Manasseh would see the era when his people would become a great nation in the European world. For 780 years the great Pattern of Manasseh was in effect, which I will now explain. The Kingdom of Manasseh, that is to say, The Kingdom of England was a state from 927 CE to 1707 CE. The Acts of Union was developed in 1707 CE, which joined the Kingdom of England [Joseph] and the Kingdom of Scotland [Judah]. The two states were previously separate states with separate legislatures, but with the same monarch since 1603 CE, when the two countries formed the single Kingdom of Great Britain. The two countries shared a monarch for about 100 years when the Union of the Crowns took place in 1603, when King James VI of Scotland inherited the English throne from his cousin, Queen Elizabeth I. James VI became King James I over the United Kingdom of Great Britain.
Strong's #4519 Manasseh: Menashsheh [pronounced men-ash-sheh] also Menashe, Menatch, Manasseh, Menasseh, Manasse, Menasseh - which means causing to forget, to forget, deprive, to be forgotten, allow to be forgotten, and also exacteth. [exacteth here means precise, not allowing for any variation, rigorous and thorough].
Strong's #5382 Forget: nashah {naw-shaw'} meaning: forget, deprive, exacteth, deprive, to forget, to be forgotten, to cause to forget from displacement [diaspora], and/or allowed to be forgotten - self inflicted or forced dispersement. The term diaspora (Ancient Greek, "a scattering or sowing of seeds") is used to refer to any people or ethnic population forced or induced to leave their traditional ethnic homelands; being dispersed throughout other parts of the world, and the ensuing developments in their dispersal and culture.
As Manasseh was born first, so does the Pattern for Manasseh come into play first. The pattern for Manasseh, the elder brother, waxed and waned before the Pattern of Ephraim began to be great, however, there was an overlapping effect with the two Patterns. The Northern Israelites fulfilled the Manasseh Pattern first, then the same people experienced the greater Pattern of Ephraim. Manasseh couldn't become a 'multitude of nations' because the time wasn't right yet when this Pattern was in force. The tribes hadn't settled in to their new homelands, nations had to be built, governments set up, boundaries established, kings and queens to coronate, there were many lands and nations to take ownership of, before the Pattern of Ephraim could take effect.
The Manasseh pattern played out its role quite effectively in the past, beginning in 927 CE and lasting until 1707 CE. This is the period of time that the Kingdom of England was a state (927-1707) in its own right, before the uniting of the Kingdom of Great Britain.
The PATTERN OF EPHRAIM
1603 – End of Time
United Kingdom of Great Britain & Colonies
United States of America
Genesis 41:52 “And the name of the second called he Ephraim: For God hath caused me to be fruitful in the land of my affliction.” Ephraim was the second son of Joseph, blessed by Jacob and given the bigger blessing of the two brothers.
Strong's #669 'Ephrayim {ef-rah'-yim} Ephraim shall be doubly fruitful, double the bountifulness, double ash-heap. Fruitful = #6509 {parah}, meaning fruitful, increased growth, bearing a bountifulness, brings forth, bear fruit, branches off.
The pattern for Ephraim meant that Joseph would see greater blessings and bountifulness than ever before. Ephraim would become a multitude of nations, but there was a down side too. Ephraim would become foolish and not experience his full potential – he becomes as a [pan]cake not turned.
'Ephraim, he hath mixed himself among the people, Ephraim is a cake not turned' [or a cake undercooked]. This does not mean 'burned' on one side, but rather, what this verse says is that Ephraim will only reach half his potential. Ephraim reaches only a half-done state because the descendants of Ephraim have allowed for strangers to enter his borders, thus zapping his strength. A mix of cultures, races, and derelicts would easily enter Ephraim's borders, causing an overall harmful situation for Ephraim. These strangers prevent Ephraim's full potential to develop and bloom past their golden harvest. Consequently, instead of reaching the desired state of land mass potential, world power, richness, blessings, success, peace, harmony, and God-given authority, Ephraim has sold out much of his assets to a guilty conscience because he could not readily accept blessings from the Lord without feeling guilty in possessing these rich gifts.
The pattern for Ephraim is 'undercooked' because the descendants lack strength of discipline. 'Undone' because they give in to political correctness, which zaps Joseph's strength. Undercooked because they think to bring the rest of the world up to their blessing level, and in the process of their altruism attempt, they begin to lose the very blessings given to them starting in 1603. These blessings made them a great people possessing great nations, and now, because of their own weaknesses, they are beginning to lose these blessings one by one.
After half the years of Manasseh's Pattern was reached, 390 years is half of 780, vandals began destroying what is considered to be the tomb of Joseph. Non-Israelites by the boat loads began pouring into the countries of Israelite nations. Ephraim was beginning to see his 'cake' being taken off the griddle only half done – in half of Manasseh's time. Ephraim did reach the 'multitude of nations' status, and could have doubled that again, if they would have been a little wiser.
Ephraim will always maintain an official bloodline to Isaac and Jacob, it is the additional blessings, which he could have obtained, that he loses and continues to lose, through his own doing. Today, we can see how England, as well as America, Canada, and other 'Joseph' countries, are losing their God-given blessings in gates/ports of entry, land mass, power, authority, freedom, and other bountifulness [called herein the Ephraim Pattern]. They have allowed 'strangers' to walk in through the front door and usurp these things. Do you think this sounds arrogant of me to write this? - Tell your side of the story to God, for He has spoken... it as prophecy - lest we again FORGET.
Attention:
Israelites should take care of their own people first, but Israelite governments worry only about elections, greediness, world fame, status, and political correctness. By neglecting our own people, we will become a minority in the world. We must reverse this action to save Jacob's bloodline. In so doing, the entire world will benefit, as there is no other people that have the instinct to be as kind, as nurturing, offering humanitarianism to all, as do the Israelite people. If the Hebrew people become extinct, the populations of the world will revert backwards in time. This has always been the cycle of things. Not my idea – study the cycles of nations and see for yourself.
Deuteronomy 7:6 "For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the Earth." and Deuteronomy 14:2 "thou art a holy people unto the Lord thy God, and the Lord hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the Earth."
America, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and others, all combined represent the Biblical 'Ephraim' Pattern today. The people themselves constitute the identity, and as a democracy, the governments are their speaking and acting voice.
As we look back in history, we see how the Israelites came into possession of the Northern Isles first, but when the pattern for Ephraim reached its fullest peak was between the years of 1603 - 1950. England was not the only nation to gain land - America won her freedom with massive land ownership during this period of time as well. The land of Australia became the homeland for many of these same descendants, as well as South Africa and New Zealand. During the time that the sun never set on Great Britain, we were representing the pattern for Ephraim. During the time of colonization of America, we were playing out the Ephraim card. The 'roots' [ancestry] of Joseph shall always be planted in the British Isles; HOWEVER, the vines of Joseph grew over the walls, i.e. wandering across the oceans, out-growing the limited borders of the tiny Isles. No matter where the 'vines' meandered, they were still the same people who make up the multitudes of Joseph's descendants, for it is the people with the role to play, and it is the people themselves who received the blessings of great bountifulness. Why would they be so careless as to forfeit all these blessings?
Today, as Joseph's descendants experience the beginning of a new Age, they still exhibit and exercise the role of Ephraim, but we can see it waning. To say that the United Kingdom is Ephraim IS correct, and to say that America IS Ephraim is also correct - to say that Canada is Ephraim is also correct. For together we are the horns of 'unicorns' that push the nations together at the end of times. All the same people who share the same roots of the same tree/vine. And there is plenty of 'Bull' to go around. England may have had John Bull, but America has Bull Durham, and Western Rodeos with hundreds of bulls; consider 'Bull' in the United States Navy and NOAA Corps, and the name given to the senior-most Ensign (rank) on a ship or flight unit. Not forgetting there is plenty of bull in America's beef industry. Recently, England was forced to destroy thousands of bulls because of 'mad cow disease'. England may have had their seal of ownership on many foreign lands, but today Joseph's descendants actually inhabit all the vast reaches of land that America owns. England may have the Queen and the inherited throne of David, but America's presidents have all had the same connections to David's royal bloodline, as do the royal families of Great Britain. It really doesn't matter who has the most Bull because all Joseph's descendants once portrayed the pattern for Manasseh, and these very same peoples, in later generations, reflect the pattern for Ephraim.
AMERICA PROPHESIED
The Hebrew word 'Amiyr' [Strong's #5995], which the name 'America' represents, refers to a 'sheaf of wheat'. In America's heartland are grown wheat fields as far as you can see - this land is called the bread basket of the world. 'Amar' [Strong's #6014], means to gather grain [wheat], and implies reaping the ripened golden harvest. U.S. coins depicted bundles of wheat, while her paper money depicted grains of 'Amiyr' [wheat], in a cornucopia of abundance. Ephraim means 'double' fruitfulness - double the harvest from the 'bread-basket of the world - this is Amiyr-America as she plays her role as Ephraim. Once again, Joseph's descendants feed the world from the land of America [Amiyr] - with her cornucopia of harvest. Remember ALL Joseph's descendants represent - the pattern for Ephraim today.
SHEAF: May refer to a sheaf of arrows called a quiver or a sheaf of wheat or corn also called a garb.
ASENATH, Mother of Ephraim & Manasseh
Except it or not, all Ephraim and Manasseh descendants have equal blood kinship to Asenath as well as to Joseph. Asenath was the wife of Joseph and the mother of Ephraim and Manasseh. The name, Asenath, [Strong's #621] means "Gift of the sun-god, Ra") and belonging to the goddess Neith of Egypt. The daughter of Poti-pherah the priest of On. The Egyptian Pharaoh gave to Joseph, son of Jacob, Asenath, to be his wife. She bore Joseph two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim, who each became patriarchs of their own tribes of Israel. [Potiphar (or Potifar) means, "The one whom Ra gave" as in IS RA EL]. Jacob, the Patriarch, once said of Ephraim, that Ephraim would become my 'firstborn',
and Ephraim shall have the name ISRAEL.
I borrowed this article without permission of the supplier, and I hope that it does not offend, for my intent is to enlighten my breathren in truth of whom they are in the world and in prophecy.Thanks
JTF
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